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General – Part 395The hours-of-service rules for drivers of passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicles (CMVs) are different from the rules for property-carrying CMVs. Note that Non-business Private Motor Carriers of Passengers are not subject to the record keeping requirements of this part, such as maintaining a logbook or record of duty status.

OK, huge question here.I work for a food service company in Ca.We drive routes that are usually less than 100 miles from the warehouse.They have us logging 80 hour / 8 days: this is confusing to me since I don't see it anywhere in the FMCSR, and never learned about it until I started at this company. Anyway, I just keep track of my time by starting with 80 hours and just subtracting what I work everyday.I'm sure this is the same everywhere, but you ask 10 different drivers/ about the correct way to log the route, and you get 10 creatively different answers.I'm reading the 395.3 section and thinking that I have 14 hours in a day, with that exception of the part - which I understand can only be used once a week.So every day, separated by a 10 hour break, do I have 14 or 16 hours to work? Since I am relatively new and get helpers that have zero experience, or I am by myself, I sometimes am out for very very long nights, meaning more than 14 hours.Does the 100 air mile rule apply to any of this?I'll try to clarify anything that might be confusing in this post - thanks.§395.3 Maximum driving time for property-carrying vehicles. It's a bit overwhelming as you put it.Actually, it's 70 hours 8 days.You can DRIVE 11 hours within a 14 hour window.

They can ask you to work.24 hours a day.But they can not ask you to drive, until you've taken a 10 hour break.IE You start your day at 6am, drive until 4pm, then work the docks until 11pm. You can not start driving until 9am the next morning.IF you report to work at 6am for dock work the next day. You CAN NOT drive.period. You did not complete your 10 hour break.Bottom line: They can 'work' you as long as they want. But they must abide by the law, when it comes to the actual driving.

The California Highway Patrol amended its hours-of-service (HOS) regulations for intrastate operations. Effective Nov.

11, 2007, an intrastate truck driver may not drive more than 12 cumulative hours following 10 consecutive hours off duty or for any period after the end of the 16th hour after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty.Further, an intrastate driver of a tank vehicle with a capacity of more than 500 gallons transporting flammable liquid may not drive more than 10 hours following 10 consecutive hours off duty and after the end of the 16th hour after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty. (DDL does not have this option yet, check back)The new requirements maintain 80 hour/8 day limit, but add a 38 hour restart provision. They are making you break the law, when I first started driving, I worked for a beverage distributor that did the samething. It was not uncommon to work 3 or 4 15 hr days per week.

They finally got nailed for it. Technically, if you are working 15 hr days every work day, then you must have a day off inbetween.

About once a month I log a 15 hr day, usually a local in-town day though.Also, your only supposed to work 70hr/8days max. Given how jacked Calif. Is towards trucker, I'm surprised they are making you do this. I do routes in California only.Does the 100 air-mile radius apply? I never go further than 100 miles from my warehouse.The dispatchers say the logs are only a way to let them know what days we worked. But the company did get audited by the DOT recently and are changing things almost daily; like keeping track of the time we pick up our paperwork, and when we leave the yard.I just want to do my logs the right way so I don't have to sweat going through the scales or showing them to a Highway Patrolman.

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The more drivers I ask, experienced and recent grads, the more confusing it gets. All of us drivers do pretty much the exact same thing, and leave and arrive back at mostly the same times, but all the drivers apparently do their logs differently. The company won't give a straight answer about how to do the logs the right way - I wish they would just have a meeting and go over it as a review for everyone, since we all do the same thing, like I mentioned above.I asked a CHP about it one day, and he suggested going to one of the bigger scales, like Cordelia, and just taking my logbook in and asking them to let me know if I am logging correctly. I'm kind of scared of that, because it will stir things up. But maybe I am worrying about nothing.Thanks for that Highway Patrol quote MikeMD. Click to expand.It would if your company chose to use them.

Obviously they haven't, for reasons of their own.I suspect the majority of the drivers are doing them wrong. That's just my opinion. And not based on any facts you've given us.There are many factors to consider here that you haven't made us aware of. So we can't give you a complete picture.As in:Are you hourly?Are you paid by the mile?Is it a combination of both?How much actual driving do you do in a day?Do you spend time working the docks before or after driving your route?How many days a week do you actually work?How much time off do you have before having to report back to work? (IE Between shifts)Typically, a 100 mile radius driver is an hourly employee.

And some are required to log by their employers, as a matter of keeping track of their time. While others have drivers punch a clock at the office.Since you are intrastate, the Fed regs are mute on many points that may or may not apply to you. I did bottom dumps in Ca. Strictly 'Intra'. We went from Fontana all over S.Ca.

Including San Diego, (just barely 100 air miles from Fontana). We were suppose to be back in 12 hours to the yard in order to be legal.

There were many times I was dispatched an additional load that would surely put me at 14 hours for the day. I refused and argued with management about being legal. I always used the 'In case of accident' excuse, since I would have to defend myself for running over hours and being involved in an accident. I believe Ca. Amended this law and says you can now drive 1 day a week for 16 hours. This was a per-centage operation using time cards to clock in/out.

This type operation is wide spread throughout the state and is rarely enforced by CHP. But, I'm here to tell you, YOU will be defending yourself trying to explain to a jury why you were driving 14-16 hours instead of quitting at 12 hours.​.